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Anabella Rella
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Posted - 2013.08.26 20:28:00 -
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We deserve answers. We deserve the truth.
A government, no matter what form it takes, exists for the purposes of maintaining order and providing for the common good of all citizens. The recent actions of our government have been antithetical to these goals. Our government has made us less secure. Our government has endangered our long-standing alliance with the Federation. Our government has damaged relations with the other empires. Our government has forced loyal Minmatar citizens into untenable positions.
We deserve to know why these acts were undertaken in the name of the Tribes and who sanctioned them at the very least.
While I disagree with my colleague's decision to make this call publicly, the fact is that all attempts to get answers (by myself and others) via private channels were met with silence. No other option was available.
We deserve better than silence. We demand better.
I, therefore, join with others in asking for an official response from the Tribal Council and/or office of the Sanmatar.
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Anabella Rella
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Posted - 2013.08.28 18:25:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:One word, Blake: "Atonement".
While the Amarrian religion and deity seem well versed in assigning blame and punishment it seems they're both grievously lacking in forgiveness and redemption.
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Anabella Rella
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:56:00 -
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Such a shame that pretty much any attempt at reasonable discourse in this medium soon degenerates into personal attacks, overheated invective, flaming, trolling, thread derailment or e-peen waving.
If a bunch of supposedly educated "elite" professionals can't even speak civilly to one another, much less actually discuss controversial issues, I don't hold out much hope that we'll ever be able to sit together to work out our differences diplomatically.
If that's truly the case we may as well just drop the pretenses and get down to the business of setting these worlds alight. Let's get it over and done with. Maybe who or whatever comes after us will learn from our stupidity.
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Anabella Rella
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:15:00 -
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I was decrying the rather substantial amount of off topic posting and other hijinks in this thread. It just gets very tedious after a while. Thanks for your thoughts offered in the greatest spirit of concern, I'm sure.
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Anabella Rella
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Posted - 2013.09.01 05:29:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:
Well, instead of complaining about certain pilots pursuing their own agendas, let's say f*ck them and ignore it while trying our best to keep such an important discussion on track.
Also, I would say capsuleers are far from either 'elite' or 'professional' but that's a minor point to make here...
Rella, how do you feel about this matter being originally discussed? Do you, too, want to see answers from Shakor? What answers do you want and why do you think he will give them to us "elite professionals?"
Personally, as I've said recently, I do not think it matters what we say or do; Shakor will act as he does until the baseline majority acts against him.
I mean no offense when I say this, but I could see all of Electus Matari demanding answers and refusing to fight his proxy war, but it would create no change with Shakor. It's clear to me the Empires merely use us in their politics when necessary, and mute us when it's detrimental.
I hope my opinion is wrong.
-Eran
As I stated earlier in this thread I feel that the Matari people deserve and should be demanding answers from the highest levels of our government. We all want to know how the decision to send warships into Colelie was reached and who authorized that action at a minimum. Finally, I'd like to see someone held responsible for this debacle. I'd like to see an official statement from either the Tribal Council or the Sanmatar.
I realize that we as capsuleers are a tiny minority and carry very little political clout. When Ava first spoke of this I was very skeptical and doubted that we'd receive anything beyond silence from the government. Whether we get satisfaction or not, it was vital to make the effort. Hopefully this petition will stir the masses to ask questions and seek answers as well.
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Anabella Rella
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:58:00 -
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Pilot Mintor while I agree that the Republic, as it's currently constituted, is not a true representative democracy, neither is it a monarchy. The main difference being that the Clan, Tribe and Council heads are all responsible to those whom they lead. When the actions of our leaders are found to be in opposition to the best interests of the people the leaders can be removed from office. In the Empire the only way to remove high level authorities is by order of the sovereign or death (via natural causes, assassination or murder).
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